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Meanwhile on the ground

At this point, I don't quite see how either position could make a difference on the ground immediatly, nor do I get the impression that all the fervent sympathizers of EITHER side are even interested to understand whats going on on the ground at all.

Note the in times of relarive peace, 'palestinians' and 'israelis' are part of the same economy and society at large. As the news of the last days show clearly, while most citries have a majority one way oir the other, they are all MIXED. Often the mix is more complex than what meets the eye.

The hebrew part is split in various factions, roughly along the lines of religious and secular, and so is the arab part, whereby there is big groups (like the haredi or some salafis) who will not support their respective polity at all, even though they are (theoretically) protected by it.

Furthermore, there is considerable amounts of (mainly young urban people) from both sides who covertly or openly flout the traditional divisions and hang out on the other side of the fence/wall, or for political reasons (as to support the victims of their 'own' sides aggression), or for personal ones (becasue there is cool stuff going on there they want to parttake in)

check out this:
https://www.thenationalnews.com/arts-culture/art/solidarity-and-what-it-...

'“There’s a framing to Palestinian art internationally. People want to see the suffering,” says Yazid Anani, one of the curators involved in the Qalandiya International biennial. “They want to see the wall, they want to see checkpoints, and they want to see the Israelis. Less has been done on the status quo of the Palestinian Authority and its troubling construct.”'

People like this are the biggest threat to the warmongers and the identities they force on others as to make them better cannonfodder and stay in power endlessly. These are the people we should support

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