While discrimination and all that kind of thing should be ended, I think lots off indymedia readers agree to that. The problem is all we have as evidence this is happening in the ACU is your word and that of other on your side.
This is problematical because of a couple of reasons. Examples are not provided because then there is a possibility of spiraling out of control. This is understandable of course. But it makes it hard to judge from a distance. Some examples that are given make it even harder. Removing a mail list without checking with others may be a bad move but to call it "(borderline) fascism" is really over the top. That doesn't inspire much confidence in other general accusations of sexism and racism. (And people really shouldn't be throwing words like fascism around unless actual fascism is involved).
The fact that you call the removal of the longer sign sabotage by other volunteers. While the poster you're responding to is under the impression that the longer sign was replaced with a shorter one after debate in the collective. This is again one of those points where your accusation(sabotage) starts to look over the top or at least makes it seem something more nuanced is going on.
This is compounded by the pretty childish way of handling the whole thing. Spreading false statements on behalf of the ACU doesn't seem very constructive in resolving the issues. An open meeting may be a good solution but at least be open and honest about who you are and especially who you are not. (I don't mean you have to give your names or something like that but at least don't say you are the ACU. Even saying we believe we are the real ACU and the more entrenched ACU'ers are 'fake', while explaining the conflict would be better).
I thought the critical thoughts of the potential supporter were a great way of voicing some of the problems with this whole business. At least for outsiders. The statements made don't really create the urge to go all the way to Utrecht to help stamp out some sexism and racism. It doesn't feel like you'll be doing that if you go. It looks more like you'll probably end up supporting some people in a power struggle.
As a conclusion I can only agree with the conclusion of the original poster.
While discrimination and all
While discrimination and all that kind of thing should be ended, I think lots off indymedia readers agree to that. The problem is all we have as evidence this is happening in the ACU is your word and that of other on your side.
This is problematical because of a couple of reasons. Examples are not provided because then there is a possibility of spiraling out of control. This is understandable of course. But it makes it hard to judge from a distance. Some examples that are given make it even harder. Removing a mail list without checking with others may be a bad move but to call it "(borderline) fascism" is really over the top. That doesn't inspire much confidence in other general accusations of sexism and racism. (And people really shouldn't be throwing words like fascism around unless actual fascism is involved).
The fact that you call the removal of the longer sign sabotage by other volunteers. While the poster you're responding to is under the impression that the longer sign was replaced with a shorter one after debate in the collective. This is again one of those points where your accusation(sabotage) starts to look over the top or at least makes it seem something more nuanced is going on.
This is compounded by the pretty childish way of handling the whole thing. Spreading false statements on behalf of the ACU doesn't seem very constructive in resolving the issues. An open meeting may be a good solution but at least be open and honest about who you are and especially who you are not. (I don't mean you have to give your names or something like that but at least don't say you are the ACU. Even saying we believe we are the real ACU and the more entrenched ACU'ers are 'fake', while explaining the conflict would be better).
I thought the critical thoughts of the potential supporter were a great way of voicing some of the problems with this whole business. At least for outsiders. The statements made don't really create the urge to go all the way to Utrecht to help stamp out some sexism and racism. It doesn't feel like you'll be doing that if you go. It looks more like you'll probably end up supporting some people in a power struggle.
As a conclusion I can only agree with the conclusion of the original poster.