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Bizarre abduction?
henk - 28.02.2002 20:06
bizarre abduction
This is a true story of a situation my daughter was in to gain custody of two of her children.
Aliens in the Courtroom.
by Dan Ahrens
My wife and I are abductees. Although we never really knew it until 1992. I suffered severe panic attacks over a period of several months. I found the courage to finally seek out help from a local abduction researcher and found that I had repressed memories of an abduction that transpired in the fall of 1976 which was also shared with my wife. Through many hypnosis sessions and an emergence of conscious memories we found that our children were also taken on multiple occasions over the years. The children are grown now and have families of their own, but the shadow of abductions still haunt each and every one of us every day of our lives. We now live in a small town in southern Missouri smack dab in the middle of the Bible belt of the Ozarks. That is where our story begins.
In February of 1998, within days of our daughter being released from the hospital after having given birth to twins she was arrested for not paying her child support. She was released on her own recognizance, and obtained an attorney for these charges. Her attorney advised her to file for a motion in court to modify her previous Divorce Decree over custody of her other two children.
From this point on the events that took place started snowballing. In April the State Prosecutor heard her case and she agreed to pay her back child support owed. She had ongoing medical problems over the years that prevented her from holding steady employment. The state was inclined to help and credit her for some of the back support money due to her medical conditions over the years. In May her ex -husband was served the papers for the motion to modify. In June she finally after many years started to receive visitation. This was the first in four years since the divorce. In July a guardian-ad-litem was appointed for the children by the state. Also within these months my son was appointed a public defender from his arrest on the same charges, felony non-support from his previous marriage. Upon his court date the public defender told the judge that he suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). The court ordered him to receive counseling, since his disorder was related to alien abductions. He also was ordered to turn over video tapes of A&E and Sightings on which our family appeared relating to our abduction experiences. The tapes as you can imagine quickly spread through the court house. At his trial he was deemed mentally unstable and case was dismissed. The prosecuting attorney then approached my daughters attorney and asked if she would also like to plead out on the Alien Defense. It was referred to as the big joke of the court house.
In a meeting with her attorney, she explained her situation and would not plead out on any Alien defense due to the fact that it could have a bad impact on her custody case. Her attorney ask for anything that she had regarding aliens since her attorney was not familiar with alien abductions. She gave her tapes, books and gave her a list of people that she could contact in case she wanted to increase her knowledge on the subject.
The state prosecutors insisted on obtaining her hypnosis transcripts, letters and analysis from her abduction researcher. In October a letter from the state prosecutors went out and everyone at the court house saw it, even before her own attorney had a chance to read it. The state prosecutors politely deemed her as crazy and delusional, since she would not plead out on the alien issue. From August to the end of November with two visits per month of her children, her ex-husband never complied with the court order involving visitation and mediation. At this time the children had been assigned their own attorney or Guardian-ad-litem, but had never visited with him. The judge was never notified of any of this and was kept in the dark on many issues. It´s as if her own attorney was in on a big conspiracy to keep her in check. Everyone seemed to be against her. After repeated attempts to get her attorney to take action on her ex-husbands failure to let her see her children, her attorney stated that if she went to the judge on contempt charges, he would have to hear the case twice and stated that the judge did not like that sort of thing. So her attorney once again refused her request. In December she was charged with felony non-support with full extent of money owed, probation of 5 years, and would have to pay $100 per month. In January 1999 she went to court for custody, or so she thought. All the attorneys were called into the judges chambers pending new evidence from her ex-husbands attorney, and the children´s Guardian-ad-litem. From outside chambers she could hear her attorney loudly stating that "This was not an issue to be brought up in a court of law and that my client´s personal beliefs did not have a bearing on this case". After this she was pulled aside by her attorney and ask about the people in the UFO community that would be willing to testify on her behalf. They presented it into new evidence that it would be detrimental to the children if they knew of my daughters alien related experiences. The judge then agreed that the children and my daughter should go through physiological evaluations. The children´s attorney stated in the court room that he had still not spoken to the children or met with them but agreed to the evaluations anyway. The judge ordered 8 hours visitation of her children for my daughter.
My daughter through this point in time never received papers stating any of what was said in the court room, and it seemed that the paper work was disappearing from the court house on a regular basis pertaining to this case. After repeatedly trying to get answers from her attorney, her attorney informed her that no one would talk to her regarding the case. The letters that her attorney wrote others involved with the case, would not comment, and never returned an answer. In March the Guardian-ad-litem met with the children and spoke with them about aliens and ask if they were afraid. They stated that they were not, and they wanted to spend more time with their mother. He failed to speak to the children on the initial charges pertaining to their father, on the motion to modify the custody. The children´s attorney then went before the judge and requested that the children, he felt, did not need psychological evaluations. He also ask if he could be dismissed as their attorney at that time. The judge denied his request to be dismissed, but did agree that the children did not need to undergo psychological evaluations. For two months my daughter´s attorney said that she had sent letters stating that this case was in violation of her constitutional rights. Four more letters were sent out on contempt charges and judge was never notified of anything, or so they say. Still papers were disappearing and no one had any answers. On several meetings with her attorney she informed my daughter of all the illegal activity regarding this court case. My daughter´s attorney felt that the judge would order the physiological evaluation for her, at which time, she wanted to pursue a case involving her violation of civil rights, and appeal the judges order for the evaluation. Her attorney felt that by going to the UFO community she could retain the funds to go ahead with that type of case. She stated that this is the first case of this kind and her attorney demanded that it would cost $20,000.00 to retain her in that case, since it would be a civil rights issue. My daughter refused that request because she felt it was extortion. In April my daughter received the court order to take a psychological evaluation. The psychological evaluation was conducted in August and it was determined that my daughter presented no real harm to her children and that her belief in alien abductions would not have a detrimental effect on her children in their formative years.
Since there is no precedent which addresses beliefs in alien abductions there is no other court cases to reference in this matter. Although beliefs in alien abductions is wide spread throughout the world. It has never come to light in a court of law.
After deliberation the judge finally agreed that she was allowed to spend every other weekend from Friday night to Sunday night with her children unsupervised. The court had set a final date for a decision to be made on custody for February 2000. In February she once again went to court and as always it was held in the judges chambers. The judges decision was to give her partial custody wich resulted in her having her children every other weekend and holidays plus six weeks during the summer months. The judge was very quiet about bringing up any reference to alien abductions. As was the other attorneys present. Her ex-husband was now on his third attorney after firing his first attorney. His second attorney was commissioned for only one day to appear on his behalf just to set a court date for the February appearance, and his third attorney was acquired just one day before the February court date.
What seems quite unusual in this whole case over the months was that my daughter´s attorney in our opinion was not working for her best interest. Her attorney always knew exactly what the judge was going to say and knew the way he was to rule on everything in this case. Of course being in a small town we suspected that the attorneys and judges were all at the country club in the evenings talking about what to do next. They seemed to be just one big happy family playing with children´s lives. The fact that documents and rulings that the judge made over the months seemed to disappear from the court house was very suspicious also. What was the big tip off was the fact that my daughter´s attorney, a woman in her late 20´s, did not have even a slight interest in researching any UFO or alien related material. In the onslaught of the case we loaned her attorney books, video tapes and other materials on the subject. Over the months when my daughter had meetings with her attorney she noticed that all the research material was still stuck back on a shelf in the unopened envelopes behind her desk. The fear from the attorneys and judge was starting to show through. What seems apparent is that their own reputations were in jeopardy if the truth came out and the press was to get involved. They would have to answer a lot of questions as to why they all allowed my daughters beliefs to come between her and her children. Just the association of aliens with this court case would be enough to drive their careers downhill fast. Even the judge´s beliefs were threatened by the fact that my daughter was abducted by aliens. To keep everyone quiet about this whole matter, on the last court date innuendoes were brought up to prevent my daughter from trying to pursue a civil rights suite. This was a result of a state prosecutor writing a letter stating that our daughter was delusional as a result of her therapist, and brainwashing from my wife and I. This was a blackmail attempt to keep my daughter in check so that the alien issue could be quietly swept under the rug forever. Someday hopefully a civil rights attorney will come forward that has the fortitude to take on an alien issue and my daughter may get back her dignity she lost in this case.
So that is where it stands, quietly, behind closed doors, they appeased my daughter for the time being in hopes that aliens would not intervene in their lives and careers. Maybe in the near future the real truth will come out and we will live in a society that looks at alien intervention as a blessing rather than something we hide in our mental closets.
(Reaction)
This is a very sad, predictable southern tale. Perhaps the screwed over parties will choose to contact by e-mail Whitley Streiber at (host of the world´s largest radio UFO show), or Citizens Against UFO Secrecy at , or even Art Bell at , or if you have alien implants in your body you want removed try and last but not least the Extraterrestrial Political Action Committee at Best of luck!
Second story
In my research for quotes for this article I was going to refer in passing to the alleged abduction case of Kelly Cahill in Victoria.
I was looking for just one particular statement that had stuck in my mind for the past few years, but on reading her book ´Encounter´ I found a gold-mine of information to help illustrate my argument.
The main points of interest are as follows:-
· Kelly was a devout Christian in the Pentecostal Church who studied the Bible at home for hours on end until this encounter. ( A devout Christian would be a prize ´scalp´ to disillusion.)
· She demanded the presence of God but found the experience so awesomely overpowering that she told God never to do it again in her entire life.( She demanded something of God and when He had an attitude of, ´well if you insist´, and let her have it, she effectively told Him never to feel His presence for the rest of her life! Again, ok., if you insist .)
· Her initial sighting of a craft made her think that it was a sign from God and she asked ´The Father´ to wait until she would be coming back. When she returned she quickly changed her mind that it was demonic! ( Her habit of referring to God as ´Father´ was a little ambiguous, the Bible states that Jesus is the one we should address to appeal to ´God the Father´. Anyone could respond to ´father´.)
· Dark beings with glowing red eyes simply appeared out of nowhere. ( A traditional description of demonic entities, and the sudden materialisation is highly suggestive of a spiritual phenomenon. Remember; ´Beam me down Scottie´, belongs in the realms of science fiction , we are being manipulated into accepting these phenomena as potential ´scientific fact´ to explain away spiritual events.)
· She seemed to receive a telepathic warning, one being seemed to say "let´s kill them", with no emotion whatsoever. ( No comment necessary.)
· She recoiled in horror, screaming out "they have no souls!" Trying to warn others present. ( This was the original quote I was searching for as the only relevant point of interest, boy was I wrong! I originally thought this could be due to the fact that their ´drones´ were genetically engineered to do the dirty work, therefore, not being made by God, would not have been given a soul. Due to recent revelations about cloning, it´s just as feasible that any truly physical ´entities´ are a human-originated contribution to the deception process. )
· Beings stated, "we mean you no harm", but caused considerable injury and discomfort! ( Knocked several feet through the air, winded, temporary blindness, nausea, possible vomiting, biopsy scars and bleeding. They must have been using the ´Mars Attacks´ translation device again! )
· Group acted as if controlled by one mind. Leader taunted her saying that he claimed her prayer and said "I guess that makes me your father", and seemed to claim possession of her soul! ( Need I say more! )
· She had a dream the same night where the being said that she could have gone with them if she was willing to leave her bible behind. ( No comment necessary.)
· If it hadn´t happened she would probably still be a Christian and still married. Still believes in God but not as Christianity teaches. ( The whole point of the exercise! ) It´s not at all difficult to see the possible demonic connection here; how on earth she managed to interpret these actions as a positive religious event is beyond me! Possibly the most interesting and revealing quotes in the whole book are these:-
"Get out of here, you hear me? In the name of God, get out of here and go back to where you came from!" and as a result; "When I roared at them, they hesitated. It threw them slightly. The hand on my shoulder paused, it seemed to lose its firmness and then the hand was lifted. I think they hadn´t anticipated such a response, and it´s the only thing I did which seemed to have an effect on them." I don´t wish to criticise Kelly too severely, as I can only imagine what the experience must have been like.
However, I would like to make this final observation; she had already told God that she never wanted to feel His presence again, and then called on God, ( potentially any god), to intervene. This caused a hesitation, not because of her angry outburst, but because they feared the next logical progression that should have come from a Christian, namely expelling the demons in the name of God-the-Father´s representative here on earth; Jesus Christ. For as Jesus said in the bible;
"In my name they will drive out demons;" ( Mark 16:17 ) and, "I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. " ( John 14:13 ) and, "Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name." ( John 15:16 ) because, "All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him." ( Matthew 11:27 )
But enough of this for the moment, for anyone who wishes to explore this concept in more detail, I highly recommend Kelly´s book, ´Encounter´.
MENDED READING (objectively)
UFO´s and the Alien Agenda by Bob Larson. Thomas Nelson Publishers. Available at Christian bookshops.
Encounter by Kelly Cahill. Harper Collins Publishers. Available from Exposure magazine. PO Box 118, Noosa Heads, Qld. 4567.
The Cosmic Conspiracy by Stan Deyo. Publishers, West Australian Texas Trading. Available from Nexus magazine. PO Box 30, Mapleton, Qld. 4560.
The Holy Bible. (any version) *All references are from NIV version. Authors: Various. Inspired by: God. Published by: Various sources. Video: (Highly recommended!)
Secrets of Dreamland. Presented by Norio Hayakawa. Available from New Dawn magazine. GPO Box 3126FF, Melbourne, Vic. 3001.
En opnieuw de vraag: wat zijn ufo´s?
 Website: http://anaisnin.cjb.net
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| aanvullingen | | | Wat UFO´s zijn | Orde van OnderWaterMegalieten - 28.02.2002 21:49
UFO´s zijn: Uiterst Foute Onderwerpen
zie ook 1-Vergieten, 2-Vuilnisbakdeksels, 3-Frisbees en 4-Straatlantarens ofwel
1-Probeer t eens te onthouden
2-Geen trash
3-Vlieg een eind op
4-Zie dingen helder
| | foute onderwerpen? | footsie - 01.03.2002 01:59
Ik zal niet zeggen dat ik alle UFO verhalen geloof, maar de bekrompenheid van het bovenstaande commentaar vind ik schrikbarend.
Wat nu UFO´s zijn extreem foute onderwerpen? Wat nou zie dingen helder? Wie ben jij om te beslissen wat waar of niet waar is? Wat waardevol of waardeloos is?
Als je met een beetje open blik de wereld tegemoet zou treden zal je er misschien achter komen dat er meer bestaat dan wat jouw beperkte bevattingsvermogen jou doet geloven. Bovenstaand verhaal is dan misschien inderdaad niet heel relevant, maar het is ook geen spam.
Website: http://www.disclosureproject.org
| | Alien = buitenlander | Orde van OnderWaterMegalieten - 01.03.2002 18:18
Ook nog geen greintje humor!
De Orde van de OnderwaterMegalieten voert al maanden aan dat de werkelijke ´alien´ die onze vriend is de illegale buitenlander is. De tastbare vijand die rare experimenten uitvoert en abduct zijn de handlangers van het kapitalisme en andere dictatoriale regiems. Elk buitenaards verhaal leidt af van de werkelijke situatie op aarde.
Ga lekker koekeloeren naar een foto van een slawasser die in een lagelonenland in een sweatshop is gemaakt en door een white male richkid op het web is gezet daar zijn hersens te ver door CocaCola zijn verweekt om de werkelijke conspiracy te zien die hem dagelijks omringt vanuit de misselijk makende media.
De Orde´ heeft gesproken!
| | niet hier | Rishi - 01.03.2002 20:25
Verhalen over UFo´s kunnen intressant zijn maar niet hier. Ik denk dat iedereen (die niet autistisch is ) dat wel doorheeft.
| | autistisch | erik - 02.03.2002 01:51
Sorry Rishi, ik had beter van je verwacht. Wanneer ik een UFO zie wil ik de mogelijkheid hebben om dat te vertellen. Wanneer iemand anders informatie heeft over astronauten die willen getuigen dat ze UFO´s hebben gezien wil ik de kans hebben dat te weten te komen. Ik denk dat het eerder autistisch is om indymedia te willen reserveren voor die onderwerpen die jij belangrijk of waardevol vindt.
Het idee van de "Orde de onderwatermegalieten" (een naam ontleent aan een interessante archeologische vondst die de zo verguisde Henk aan ons kenbaar maakte) dat mensen die in UFO´s geloven geen sociaal bewustzijn kunnen hebben is te bekrompen voor woorden. De redenen waarom indymedia bestaat is omdat bepaald nieuws niet of vertekend in de reguliere media terechtkomt. Dat er hier op indymedia.nl plaats is voor berichten die het eendimensionale denken overstijgen lijkt me de rechtvaardiging van haar bestaan.
| | ARGHHHHHHHH | 02.03.2002 10:41
The Matians are comming!!!!!!!!!!!
Lucky I was warned on Indymedia.nl
Keep up the kosmic view guys!!!!!!
| | From the planet ´Mate´? | 03.03.2002 23:07
| | onder gesneeuwd | Rishi - 07.03.2002 22:30
Erik, ook ik vind UFO-onderwerpen intressant(net zo als onderwater megalieten) maar daarvoor zijn voldoende andere sites(meer dan goede news sites). Wanneer dergelijke berichten hier te veel gaan opduiken zal dat waarschijnlijk potentiële schrijvers tegenhouden om hier iets te publiceren. En dit was niet echt een kwaliteits UFO verhaal. De verhalen over mensen
die zich zelf bevroren in bed bevinden en ze zich dus absoluut niet kunnen bewegen en dan ook nog een helder groot licht voor hun raam waarnemen zijn veel talrijker en waarschijnlijk ook betrouwbaarder.
En volgens een bericht in de volkskrant of (NRc??) zouden alle mannen lichtelijke autistisch zijn, sommige zijn dat alleen een beetje meer. Hoop dat ik niemand beledigd heb. 0 20
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