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| | some supplements were deleted from this article, see policy | | bombardement Dresden oorlogsmisdaad | linking - 13.02.2005 00:43
Hmm mja...
Uiteraard is het zaak om neonazi's met hun revisionistische praatjes tegen te gaan, en een zoektochtje levert ook en niet onverwacht heel wat van dergelijke sites op. Evengoed kan het bombardement op Dresden niet anders worden betiteld dan als een oorlogsmisdaad, waarvoor noch in Neurenberg noch later iemand veroordeeld is.
Zie bijv. ook
 http://www.socialistworker.org/2005-1/530/530_08_Dresden.shtml
Allies destroyed Dresden, but never bombed Auschwitz
American war crime in the “good war”
February 11, 2005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
Bombing of Dresden in World War II
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
http://www.chomsky.info/talks/1990----.htm
If the Nuremberg Laws were Applied...
Noam Chomsky
Delivered around 1990
| | Tralala anti-deutsche | xx - 13.02.2005 00:49
Quote: "Zo’n 500 tot 700 ‘autonomen’ demonstreerden reeds op zaterdag 12 februari in Dresden. Wellicht dat hun bikkelharde opstelling een reden vormt voor de tegenvallende opkomst. Hun leus ‘Geen tranen voor Dresden’ toont weinig medeleven."
Tja, en dan kijk je maar eens naar zo'n filmpje van die tegendemo, helaas zonder geluid maar de beelden waren meer dan duidelijk: vlaggen van alle geallieerde staten plus Israel... Dat de anti-deutsche toch nog zo'n 500 lui op de been zouden krijgen?
Het betreft hier een geval van typisch Duitse folklore uit radikale hoek. Niet veel idioter dan de gemiddelde anti-imps die solidair zijn met ik weet niet welke staat in oprichting, feitelijk een soort logisch spiegelbeeld. Een beetje zoals John Veldhuis dus, maar dan omgekeerd. Binnenkort herdenken diezelfde lui waarschijnlijk de gesneuvelde Britse en Amerikaanse piloten van de Luchtbrug op Berlijn.
| | NEO-NAZI MARCH AS DRESDEN REMEMBERS | AFA - 13.02.2005 18:39
NEO-NAZI MARCH AS DRESDEN REMEMBERS(Germany)
13/2/2005- Waving black flags and carrying banners, thousands of
neo-Nazis have marched in Dresden, overshadowing the official 60th
anniversary commemoration of one of the fiercest Allied bombing raids of
World War Two. Before Sunday's march Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder
pledged to stop far-right groups exploiting the anniversary and
portraying Germany as a war victim while ignoring Nazi atrocities.
Police said at least 2,000 people joined the march. Politicians voiced
concern the march might turn into Germany's biggest far-right
demonstration since the war -- that neo-Nazis might clash with residents
planning to turn out in their thousands wearing white roses in a
counter-protest. British, American, French and Russian dignitaries were
due to attend events meant to send a message of peace and
reconciliation, whilst remembering the crimes of the Nazis and those
cities which shared Dresden's fate. Official ceremonies began with a
wreath-laying ceremony at a mass grave while neo-Nazi marchers elsewhere
in the city carried balloons saying: "Allied bomb terror -- then as now.
Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden and today Baghdad. No forgiveness, no
forgetting." One banner read: "The bombing holocaust will not be
suppressed." Dresden, untouched by bombing just months before the end of
World War Two, was 85 percent destroyed by two waves of British bombers
on the night of Feb. 13, 1945. U.S. planes blasted the city the next
day. The official death toll is put at around 35,000 but many survivors
believe the actual number was higher as bodies were reduced to ashes in
the ensuing firestorm.
City ruined
"Thousands of innocent people, including many children and refugees,
died in most terrible circumstances," Schroeder said in a statement on
Sunday. "One of the most beautiful cities in Europe was destroyed. We
mourn today for the victims of war and violent Nazi rule in Dresden,
Germany and Europe." Once dubbed the Florence of northern Europe for
architectural jewels such as the Zwinger palace and the Semper Opera,
the city was reduced to smoldering ruins. East German socialist town
planners restored some historic buildings but also tore vast concrete
avenues through the city's heart. Today ugly concrete housing blocks
jostle with church spires on the city skyline. Dresdeners take huge
pride in the baroque Frauenkirche, rebuilt in the 15 years since German
reunification in 1990, and which was topped last year with a golden
cross from Britain. The anniversary has reopened a debate over how to
mourn Germany's war dead while containing the resurgent far right.
Schroeder pledged to counter all attempts to distort history and hinted
he would make a fresh attempt to ban the far-right National Democratic
Party (NPD) which helped organize the march. "We will use all means to
counter these attempts to re-interpret history. We will not allow cause
to be confused with effect," he said. "This is our obligation to all the
victims of the war and Nazi terror, especially and also the victims of
Dresden." Members of the NPD that sits in the Dresden-based Saxony state
parliament provoked outrage last month by walking out of a commemoration
of the liberation of Auschwitz concentration camp and calling the air
raids a "bombing holocaust." Britain's ambassador to Germany, Sir Peter
Torry, told Sunday's Tagesspiegel newspaper likening the bombing of
Dresden to the Holocaust was "highly problematic" but played down the
threat posed by the NPD. The Nazis killed six million Jews in the
Holocaust during World War Two. "I would take the phenomenon seriously
but not overrate it. The neo-Nazis got into Saxony's parliament but on a
low turnout," he was quoted as saying.
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| | Neo- Nazis march in Dresden 13.02.2005 15:00 | AFA - 13.02.2005 18:40
Neo- Nazis march in Dresden 13.02.2005 15:00
Day-long commemorations are underway in Dresden of the Allied
fire-bombing
that destroyed the east German city in 1945. German officials have
placed
wreaths, accompanied by the American, British and French ambassadors.
However the ceremonies were overshadowed by a march of neo-Nazis,
organised
by the NPD party, which has seats in the regional Saxony parliament.
Police
said at least 3,000 people joined the march in the eastern German city,
making it one of the biggest far-right demonstrations since the war.
Before
the march, police said 5,000 attended a neo-Nazi rally.
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/news/0,,12215_2,00.html?maca=en-news-19-rdf
| | geen tegen demonstratie ??????????? | Willem - 13.02.2005 20:29
en geen tegen demonstratie?????????????????
| | niet gewerkt | Willem - 14.02.2005 11:02
heeft anders zo te zien niks geholpen
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