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Oprichter JDL - Holland uit organisatie gezet
Leah Levinson - 20.01.2004 06:42

Oprichter JDL - Holland uit organisatie gezet

Leah Levinson wrote:

BS”D
Shalom Bill,
PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THE FOLLOWING!!!
AS FROM NOW PHILIP AWUY, ALIAS PHILIP BARR, IS NO LONGER A MEMBER OR ACTIVE FOR JDL-HOLLAND.
Over the past months he has proved himself to be unreliable and in many ways undermining the interest of jdl-holland.
As a member (he was never on the board..) his oneman-actions caused a lot of aggravation and unsafe situations for other members as well for people working with us.
In his eager to give information about himself, jdl-actions and other members, by speech or thrue the net, and therefor double-crossing other peoples interest, contacts etc.., he has created an unworkable-situation.
Added to that his need for compliments; taking credit for other peoples work and constantly putting himself in the spotlights it has become absolutely impossible to work with him.
Things here in Holland are not as much in the open as they are in the USA. It takes time, ‘fingertip-feeling’ ,tact and knowledge in order to gain the trust of the Jewish public and therefor to get more members and/or support. Members work under another name as the Jewish community here is very small.
As for now a lot, if not most, members have left or are told to have left (by Philip…) because there situation was made impossible and unworkable for them by him. He is playing off one member against the other.
Until now we felt we had no other option but to put up with it, since he was able to ‘sjmoez’ himself into a ‘trustworthy’ position towards USA-headquarters. However; now that he suddenly got hold of the website and mail-passwords and changing them without us knowing it; changing and adding unwanted info; putting a 15 year old girl (his daughter..who is not even a member) in charge of the website…’playing’ with us in our attemps to gain the new passwords etc…things really get out of hand.
For your info: this person is originally from Indonesia where his hate for moslims was formed;saw the ‘light’ about 2 years ago in his search for himself and his ‘roots’ and put on a kipa..; joined Saroef (a group with projects in Israel) which he completely undermined when things didn’t go his way, leaving them with big problems..; after that blew ‘new life’ into the JDL in Holland where history is about to repeat itself.
He has plans to start illegal activities (arms traffic, attacking mosques) which we cannot promote, tolerate or support.
The results from that and or a link to the JDL would be devestating for the Jews here.
Bill, we can come to you with a lot of examples and ‘proof’ but important now is to get him of the list ASAP.
The JDL will remain and stay in Holland; there is a great need for it. What we don’t need is intriges and a ‘leader’ that claimes to be somebody which he is not.
As soon as we have things in order here we’ll let you know.
Shalom,
JDL-Holland board
Leah Levinson alias Noa Lev - xxxxxxxxxxx xxx – xxxxxxxx xxxx xx – Tel. xxx – xxx xx xx – Mobile xx xxx xxx xx
:  NOALEV_IDF@HOTMAIL.COM

 

Read more about: anti-fascisme / racisme

supplements
- - 20.01.2004 09:16

Dit bericht roept de nodige vragen bij mij op:
- Het lijkt een overgetikte prive-brief (opening 'dear Bill'), maar sommige dingen staan er duidelijk alleen maar in om 'general public' te informeren. Als dit echt een prive brief was stonden sommige dingen er niet in, die zouden al bekend zijn bij de ontvanger.
- Ergens in de brief staat dat de leden van deze club zich manifesteren onder een andere naam...maar onder de brief staat de afzender compleet met adres en telnr. Dat is nogal met elkaar in tegenspraak.

Volgens mij is dit een nep-bericht.
- - 20.01.2004 09:45

Ik denk dat het een goed idee is als de moderators het adres onder dit bericht weghalen.....dat staat vast niet met toestemming van deze persoon op het net.
- - 20.01.2004 10:09

Dit is een poging van extreem rechts om Noa Lev te pesten door zijn adres op het net te zitten en om links te pesten door de zoveelste rel te creeren over antisemitisme bij indymedia...
weg met deze vuilspuiterij!!
Joodse Defensie Liga in Nederland actief 
link - 20.01.2004 10:10

Joodse Defensie Liga in Nederland actief
Ronald Koops - 03.05.2003 01:50
 http://www.indymedia.nl/nl/2003/05/11606.shtml
NRC-acrtikel over JDL op de CIDI-site 
link - 20.01.2004 11:08



Website: http://www.cidi.nl/media/2003/nrc.200903.html
 
zucht zucht. 
Maarten - 20.01.2004 11:59

Ik lees dit nu net, waarom zou het vals zijn en van extreem rechts komen?
Als dat waar was zou deze mail wel in 't Nederlandsch zijn. Maar wat hij me wel lijkt is dat hij NEP is. Moskeén opblazen? huh. Ik lees ook very small community, mwah, valt wel mee 40.000 mensen.

In ieder geval boeit het weinig of deze mail wel of niet echt is. Er valt pas wat te zeggen als er een officieel bericht vanuit de organisatie komt.

-- - 20.01.2004 15:35

Misschien ia dit inderdaad niet gedaan door extreem rechts...het lijkt nogal op de praktijken die hier: http://www.counterpunch.org/rooij0924.html
worden beschreven.
@ Maarten 
20.01.2004 15:38

"Ik lees dit nu net, waarom zou het vals zijn en van extreem rechts komen?
Als dat waar was zou deze mail wel in 't Nederlandsch zijn."

Extreem-rechts kent geen Engels? Of gaat deze redenatie uit van een of ander voordeel dat extreem-rechts ten alle tijden in het Nederlands zou babbelen? Hoe dan ook, een argumentatie voor deze aanname ontbreekt, van jouw kant.
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